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This Week in Startups
Jason Calacanis
4.4 • 1.3K Ratings
🗓️ 25 February 2025
⏱️ 68 minutes
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Summary
Today’s show: Jason and Lon break down the latest trends shaping AI training, the evolving job market, and the shifting landscape of social media. A tribute to Steve Jobs on what would have been his 70th birthday explores his lasting impact, Apple’s massive $500 billion AI investment, and the future of US manufacturing. The conversation dives into Outlier’s role in AI training data, its effects on journalism, and broader job market implications. Jason also shares insights on autonomous vehicles, Apple’s AI strategy, and the latest in crypto—covering meme coins, regulatory battles, and the state of angel investing. Plus, a look at Oscar season and the cultural moments making waves.
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Timestamps:
(0:00) Jason and Lon kick off the show!(2:59) TikTok discussion and Steve Jobs' 70th birthday tribute(4:36) Jason's history with Steve Jobs and impact of blogging(8:56) Jason's interaction with Steve Jobs about podcast monetization(10:13) Squarespace. Use offer code TWIST to save 10% off your first purchase of a website or domain at https://www.Squarespace.com/TWIST(11:27) Steve Jobs' legacy and Apple's innovation(14:12) Apple's $500 billion investment in AI and TSMC chip manufacturing(20:08) Vanta. Get $1000 off your SOC 2 at https://www.vanta.com/twist(21:18) Geopolitical implications of Apple's US manufacturing investments(24:06) Outlier's role in AI training data and legal risks(27:02) Journalists in AI training and job market implications(30:40) Vapi. Go to https://www.vapi.ai and use code Twist200 to get $200 in credits(32:39) Outlier’s AI training recruitment and global reach(34:14) AI's future in various industries(36:53) Experiences with autonomous vehicles and Waymo(37:23) Hot-swappable LLMs and Apple's AI integrations(41:03) Commercial implications of AI deals for Apple(43:08) Public access to podcast docket and meme coins discussion(47:03) Milei’s meme coin and libertarian views on crypto(52:15) Crypto trader's tragic incident and dangers of investing on margin(58:19) Jason's gambling habits and future of crypto regulation(1:01:05) Angel investing and Oscar season discussion
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| 0:00.0 | I've been reading a whole bunch about this company Outlier. |
| 0:04.0 | Outlier is one of many companies that's providing these kind of services, like a human editor to aid in training your AI model. |
| 0:12.1 | And here's the great news. If you're a worker at Google or you're a worker at Facebook or you're a worker for our government, you can collect that paycheck while doing |
| 0:21.7 | this in your office. |
| 0:22.6 | I'm going to send you back to the office. |
| 0:24.2 | When you get back to your office, you can... |
| 0:25.6 | Don't tell Elon. |
| 0:26.7 | Don't tell Elon. |
| 0:28.1 | This is why overwork or overemployed is such a phenomenon. |
| 0:31.5 | I guarantee you people are doing these while they're ostensibly working at other places. |
| 0:37.7 | I know it because... |
| 0:37.7 | Oh, I've got a window open right now. |
| 0:39.3 | I've been doing this the whole show. |
| 0:40.6 | Oh, fantastic. |
| 0:41.6 | Great. |
| 0:41.9 | Well, double dipping. |
| 0:42.8 | Here we go. |
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