Hey, friends, welcome back to another episode of Theology and the rob. I guest today is Dr. Matthew Bates,

who has a PhD from University of Notre Dame. He is a professor of New Testament at Northern

Seminary in Illinois. He's the author of several books about the gospel. So gospel allegiance,

Salvation by Allegiance alone, Why the Gospel? And his latest book is called Beyond the Salvation Wars. Bates also

co-founded and co-hosts the popular Bible and theology podcast called On Script, which I would

highly recommend you check it out. If you like The Algeria to Ra, you will love on script. We

talked about it a little bit in this conversation. In this conversation with Matthew, we talk all about his latest book Beyond the Salvation

Wars. And yeah, as always, Matt is a very, very thoughtful and

humble scholar. So really enjoyed having it back on Theology Norah. So please welcome

back to the show, the one and only, Dr. Matthew Bates.

Welcome back to Thealdron Raw, Matthew. How are you doing this morning?

Hey, Preston. It's so great to be with you.

Is this number two, I think, right?

I think this is the second time with you.

Yeah.

I do a lot of podcasts myself as a co-host, but also as a guest.

So it is hard to keep track, but I think this is my, I know we've done it once, at least.

Yeah.

At least once, yeah, yeah.

And I think I've been on yours once too.

Your podcast is on script. It's similar to Theology and Arra. Right. I mean,

it's maybe a little more academic. Not that I would say I have a mix, academics, not academics,

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