Hi, I'm Anouche. I'm Freddie. I'm Andrew. And on today's episode of the New

Statesman podcast, we reflect on party conference season and you ask us, is

Keir Starmer moving back to the left?

Hello, YouTube. Congratulations on surviving conference season. I only did

labour conference, so I'm a lightweight. But how are you two feeling?

Absolutely, Nackad. Yeah, very tired. I've been resorting to sleep in the

afternoon and trying to get back on my feet. We'll get there.

You both look quite perky to me, I'd say. I didn't drink this time, but I'm an

old-git and even without drink, I'm feeling too tired. And the voices, all those

parties are one shouting each other. I try and rooms with slightly too many

people for the available amount of oxygen. All right, so what do you make of

let's talk about Conservative party conference first, because you've just come

from there. I think the Conservative party conference in terms of unity, sense of

purpose, sense that they're going to be in part for a long time was the worst I

have ever seen of any party. It was really grim for the Tories. The number of

people in the bars and in the sort of corridors and so forth, talking as if

they were sure they were going into opposition. Now, they're facing pinion

poles, some of them putting labour 33 points ahead, so it's not surprising. But

that hasn't really got under the skin of Tory MPs and think that their

careers are over. And that then sparked all the conversations about would there

be a coup in which he turned policy, a lot of senior Conservatives at

Congress went in to see the new Prime Minister and said, I've only said to

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