Are vegetables actually bad for you?

Very bad, in fact.

The ones that are high in oxley, oxalide's a very serious chemical that is essentially a poison when you eat too much of it.

We're using these foods in an effort to protect our health.

And it's doing quite the opposite.

You're going to be the most controversial guest I have ever had, Sally.

Who else would dare?

Except someone whose entire life was ruined by this.

You know, You're eating healthy, but nothing seems to be improving.

Could it be the vegetables? Maybe. Maybe not.

Nutrition educator and author Sally Norton is on the show today to explain why oxalates lurking in a healthy plant-heavy diet could be making chronic health problems worse, not better.

Of course, I want to reiterate that I have many guests on this show, some

you may agree with, maybe you disagree with, maybe vegetables really help you, but for someone

else listening, this episode could be an aha moment. One more disclaimer to any kids in the car,

no, you are not allowed to use this episode as an excuse to say you aren't eating your vegetables.

Only mommies and daddies get to decide.

You're welcome, Mom.

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This show is made possible only by tax-deductible donations from listeners like you through the link in the description. You can also leave a five-star review anytime for free. I'm Alex Clark. Please welcome author of

toxic superfoods and nutrition educator Sally Norton to Culture Apothecary.

Are vegetables actually bad for you?

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