This is not me doing it. God gave me a brand new heart and he changed me. That's why I'm not as selfish as I was before.

Welcome to Conversations with John and Lisa Bevere. This is my husband of 41 years this year.

This is a topic that's a really interesting important topic to talk about today. We're going to be talking about how do you know you are saved?

Are you saved? Saved? Saved. Saved. Saved.

Anyway, I want to thank you for joining us. We love hearing from you. We love when you rate, subscribe, share it with your friends. It really actually helps us get the message out there.

I've got a really super cool review that I'm going to read today from Judah. If you do this, you might get read on Conversations as well.

I love listening to you guys and listening all through the day when I wake up and get ready and when I drive home at night, keep it up. Love you guys.

Our team said from reading the rest of the review, they think he might actually be a teenager because he was asking for information on young adults and dating staff.

That is not amazing. So today is very, very important to me. It's the topic of the day.

And the reason it is is I'm going to read a scripture here from 2 Thessalonians, chapter 2, verse 3. Paul the Apostle says that day will not come except the apostasy comes first.

Now what's the apostasy? I'm reading this out of the amplified because they explain it. Unless the predicted great falling away of those who are professed to be Christians has come.

And so that is something that was prophesied back in the days of Paul and Lisa today.

But wait, I can hear people right now listening saying, wait a minute, isn't one saved always saved? So what does that mean? Can somebody profess and then regress to a place where they're no longer a Christian?

I think the bigger question is because that's an excellent question. The bigger question becomes, were they even saved in the first place?

Jesus is invisible. You can make Jesus however you want and you can make salvation however you want if you take selected scriptures out of the New Testament.

However, if you look at the overall council of the New Testament, salvation is made very, very clear. Now we have got statistically and this one shook me up. This is the whole reason for the awe of God tour.

And from 2000, the year 2000 till present day, over 23 million people have gone from practicing Christians to non-practicing Christians, excuse me, to non-Christians, not non-practicing, non-Christians.

Okay. So they are either atheists, agnostics or spiritualists or absolutely nothing, which I guess would be agnostic, correct?

Or atheists, yeah. Or atheists. So now the thing I want to say right up top is first of all, Paul never wrote that they would never come back.

So you're saying that there could be a falling away and then there could be a return? Yes. Okay. And if I look at John the Baptist, he went in the spirit and power of Elijah and he was sent to the lost sheep of the House of Israel.

I think there's going to be an Elijah anointing coming forth. And I believe it's going to be a multitude. It's not going to be one guy. I think it's going to be sons and daughters.

And I think it's going to start with the sons and daughters. I think it's going to start with the Gen Zs and millennials. I love that.

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