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today Arthur Brooks. He has been with us before and he's with us again. He currently has appointments

at Harvard University's Kennedy School and in the Harvard Business School. Before that, he was

the very successful president of the American Enterprise Institute. His books include Love

Your Enemies. That was our topic a couple of years ago. Also, the conservative heart and a title I like, Gross National

Happiness. The new book is from strength to strength, finding success, happiness, and deep purpose

in the second half of life. And that is our topic today. Welcome, Professor Brooks.

Thank you, Mark. What a delight to be with you.

Great. Great. Well, before getting into the text proper, you have an epigraph from the

Psalms. Is the book of Psalms important to you?

It is. I mean, it's important to me as a Christian man, but it's also important to me to

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