Good afternoon everybody and welcome at the table Tom and Eric a show about the people

who play board games. I'm Tom Vassel. Hi there I'm Eric Summerer and our guest at the table

today is the owner of smirk and dagger and smirk and laughter games as well as the

designer of cutthroat caverns never more tower of madness and more. He's also a resident

of the coolest state in board gaming. Please welcome Kurt Covert. Hello Kurt. Hey everybody

here. Nobody says that. Coolest state in board game. Nobody in existence says that. Lots of cool

people here in Connecticut. I didn't argue that but Connecticut by very nature cannot be the coolest

state in gaming considering the small amount of people who live there and also your exits are

on the wrong side of the highway. I'm a unreliable narrator. Yeah you are. Well welcome Kurt.

It's good to have you here. Yeah. Kurt me just lost the game together not too long ago.

Really what'd you play? The cube game. What's that called? I should remember what it's called.

It's not the test rack. Yeah. Test rack. Yeah he taught it to us and we we we we failed woefully.

I believe I have also failed woefully at test racked with Kurt teaching so I think it's the

teacher that's the problem. Well well could be. It could be. You know Tom Tom was joking that he

thinks that your your wonderful last name is made up. Is this actually Kurt your real last name?

This would not be the first time that I have been so accused but yes it is in fact my actual name.

I'm going to go to my death bed not believing you. Yeah I feel like you've changed it. That's fine.

We'll accept this false narrative. We think it might have come from from English where it was

probably like where I was located like our family was you know John over at the Covers which are

foxholes. Okay. That's that's someone day no. No you need a better story. Okay it was you come from

a family of spies. It's true. We're not very good spies because you know they they of course

announced it. Yeah. Yeah but maybe people think that they wouldn't be that obvious. It's so obvious

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