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Being Well with Forrest Hanson and Dr. Rick Hanson

Attachment Masterclass: Sue Johnson, Rick Hanson, Julie Mennano, and Elizabeth Ferreira

Being Well with Forrest Hanson and Dr. Rick Hanson

Being Well

Health & Fitness, Education, Self-improvement, Mental Health

4.82.4K Ratings

🗓️ 23 December 2024

⏱️ 120 minutes

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Summary

Why do some people navigate the social world with such ease while others feel like they're swimming upstream? In this special episode of Being Well, Forrest is joined by four leading experts for a masterclass on the science of attachment. Featuring conversations with Dr. Sue Johnson, Dr. Rick Hanson, Julie Mennano, and Elizabeth Ferreira, this carefully curated episode gives you a map to becoming more socially confident, emotionally intelligent, and authentically connected.  Topics include: The four fundamental patterns that influence how we show up in every social interaction. Dr. Sue Johnson's guide to having deeper, more meaningful "hold me tight" conversations. Dr. Rick Hanson’s approach to working with self-abandonment. Julie Mennano on working with the anxious-avoidant dance that brings so many couples to therapy. Elizabeth Ferreira’s somatic and trauma-informed perspective on healing attachment wounds. Rick’s Yearly Program: Rick’s Foundations of Well-Being 2.0 is a year-long, science-backed journey through developing 12 key inner strengths like mindfulness, motivation, and confidence. It’s currently on sale, and if you like Being Well we think you’ll love it. Follow the link here and use coupon code beingwell20 for an additional 20% off: RickHanson.com/FWB You can watch this episode on YouTube. Key Topics: 0:00: Introduction 3:35: Rick Hanson: How to become securely attached 31:20: Working with common attachment wounds 47:35: Sue Johnson: How to have a bonding conversation 1:09:35: Julie Mennano: The attachment mistakes that bring people to therapy, and how secure couples relate differently 1:22:25: Rick Hanson: Self-abandonment, anxious attachment, and how to build up a greater sense of self-worth and self-trust 1:40:30: Elizabeth Ferreira: Creating a secure relationship 1:56:50: Recap and outro About our Guests: Dr. Sue Johnson is a clinical psychologist, researcher, professor, and the founder of Emotionally Focused Therapy (EFT), a widely used and respected approach to couples therapy. She is considered one of the foremost experts in the field of attachment, and has received numerous awards for her contributions to the field of psychotherapy. Dr. Johnson is also the author of seven books, including the best-selling Hold Me Tight. Elizabeth Ferreira is an Associate Marriage and Family Therapist working in California. She specializes in somatic approaches to trauma work.  Julie Menanno a Licensed Marriage and Family Therapist, Licensed Clinical Professional Counselor, and Relationship Coach. She is the founder of The Secure Relationship coaching method, and maintains an instagram of the same name with over 1M followers. She is also the author of Secure Love. I am now writing on Substack, check out my work there.  Support the Podcast: We're now on Patreon! If you'd like to support the podcast, follow this link. Sponsors Use promo code hanson at the link below to get an exclusive 60% off an annual plan at incogni.com/hanson. Sign up for a one-dollar-per-month trial period at shopify.com/beingwell.  Get 15% off OneSkin with the code BEINGWELL at https://www.oneskin.co/ #oneskinpod  Join over a million people using BetterHelp, the world’s largest online counseling platform. Visit betterhelp.com/beingwell for 10% off your first month! Transform your health with the ZOE Science & Nutrition podcast. Find it wherever you listen to podcasts. Connect with the show: Subscribe on iTunes Follow Forrest on YouTube Follow us on Instagram Follow Forrest on Instagram Follow Rick on Facebook Follow Forrest on Facebook Visit Forrest's website Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Transcript

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0:00.0

Hello and welcome to Being Well. I'm Forrest Hanson. If you're new to the show, thanks for listening today. And if you've listened before, welcome back.

0:15.1

Today, we have a very special episode for you. In the 400 or so episodes we've recorded of being well, I've had the

0:23.4

opportunity to talk to so many incredible experts about so many different subjects. One of those

0:30.7

is attachment, which describes how our early relationships and experiences can influence our

0:35.2

adult relationships. Attachment is a very popular framework for

0:38.8

understanding ourselves and other people. Working with your attachment style can have a lot of benefits,

0:44.3

and I've gotten a lot of mileage out of it myself. Today's episode is something of an attachment

0:49.4

masterclass. I've gone back through the archives, and I've selected sections from some of my favorite

0:54.7

conversations that focus on attachment. We've then edited those together into this greatest

1:00.3

hits episode. The first conversation that you'll hear is with Dr. Rick Hansen, my dad, and

1:06.1

frequent co-pilot on the show, and this conversation focuses on how we can become more securely

1:12.3

attached over time. It's a great place to start for people. It also begins with Rick offering

1:17.7

a simple summary of attachment theory and some other material that can give you some good

1:22.2

context for the other stuff that we'll be talking about during this episode. If you're listening

1:27.4

to this and

1:27.9

you're unfamiliar with attachment theory, you'll probably get enough of a background from this

1:32.2

segment, but just in case, here's a simple way of understanding attachment. I found this really

1:37.3

useful myself, and it comes from research done in the early 90s that simplified attachment

1:42.0

into just two questions. Does a person have a positive or negative

1:46.2

view of themselves? And do they have a positive or negative view of other people? It's two questions

1:52.4

that have two answers. So as Rick loves a matrix, there are four possible combinations here.

1:58.4

First, you might have a positive view of yourself and a positive

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