Avoidance Does Not Equal Healing

ShrinkChicks

Jennifer Chaiken, LMFT and Emmalee Bierly, LMFT

Mental Health, Education, Health & Fitness, Society & Culture, Self-improvement, Relationships

5 • 717 Ratings

🗓️ 31 March 2025

⏱️ 46 minutes

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Summary

On this week's episode of ShrinkChicks, Emmalee and Jen are dissecting the difference between avoidance and healing. They start the episode off by explaining how to recognize the difference in your own life and how they can tell the difference in theirs. Emmalee and Jen discuss when saying "no" is a boundary and when it is avoidance, the ability to call out your avoidance as the first step of healing, avoidance/staying busy as coping mechanisms, speaking up about your feelings even if the other person's behavior won't change, and so much more! Tune in to gain insight, awareness, and action! PS: Fast forward to around 6 minutes to skip the intro and get straight to today’s content. Get Matched With One of Our Therapists at The Therapy Group! ShrinkChicks on Instagram Our Know Yourself Grow Yourself Journal!! Check out ShrinkChicks on YouTube by subscribing here! https://youtube.com/channel/UCrxuhDqoL4ML3UE8b2J2BBg A special thank you to this week's sponsors for supporting ShrinkChicks! We have these exclusive offers for our listeners: Headspace: Go to Headspace.com/SHRINKCHICKS60 to unlock all of Headspace FREE for 60 days Wildgrain: Get $30 off your first box - PLUS free croissants in every box - when you go to Wildgrain.com/SHRINKCHICKS to start your subscription or use code SHRINKCHICKS at checkout Factor: Get started at factormeals.com/FACTORPODCAST and use code FACTORPODCAST to get 50% off your first box plus free shipping Prose: See the difference custom care can make with 50% off your first haircare subscription order at prose.com/shrinkchicks Mint Mobile: Shop plans at mintmobile.com/shrinkchicks Quince: Go to quince.com/shrinkchicks for free shipping and 365-day returns on your next order Spot & Tango: go to spotandtango.com/shrinkchicks and use code SHRINKCHICKS to get 50% off your first order

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0:00.0	This podcast is brought to you by Podcast Nation.
0:05.0	Avoidance and healing can look similar, but they feel very different to us.
0:08.5	So, like, I always think about, like, the duck going across the water and then underneath
0:12.3	it's, like, frantically paddling.
0:14.5	Yes.
0:15.2	I think it can both look like you are composed and you are calm and you are stable and your content and that I think actual
0:23.3	healing can feel that way and avoidance doesn't avoidance can me for me feels like it feels like
0:32.0	I can never be too close to myself or someone else.
0:47.4	Welcome back to another episode of shrink chicks.
0:52.5	Take a seat on our virtual therapy couch and get ready to learn all about, well, you.
0:53.7	I'm Emily Bearley.
0:54.9	And I'm Jennifer Chakin.
0:59.0	And we're both licensed, marriage and family therapist and relationship experts. We're the owners and founders of the therapy group, a nationwide psychotherapy practice with down-to-earth therapists just like us.
1:06.4	Your session is starting.
1:07.8	So get ready to know yourself and grow yourself.
1:13.7	Hi, Jen.
1:15.1	Hi, M.
1:16.4	How are you?
1:17.6	Doing good.
1:18.2	It's a Sunday.
1:19.3	It's recording on a Sunday.
1:20.8	It's kind of lovely.
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