AvTalk Episode 308: Upside down, but alive

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🗓️ 21 February 2025

⏱️ 46 minutes

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Summary

On this week’s episode of AvTalk, an Endeavor Air CRJ-900 ends up upside down in Toronto, but everyone on board makes it out safely. The NTSB provides a detailed update on the mid-air collision in Washington, including the agency’s focus on the helicopter’s altitude and the altitude the pilots believed they were at. We discuss the recent firings of probationary employees at the FAA and what effects this might have on the agency now and in the long term. And for the first time in the airline’s history (sort of), Southwest Airlines is conducting layoffs, with 15% of its corporate workforce being let go.
Helpful links for this week’s episode

* Endeavor Air crash in Toronto
* NTSB updates on DCA crash
* The Air Current article on FAA firings
* Crankyflier post on Southwest

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0:00.0	Hello and welcome to episode 308 of AvTalk.
0:12.0	I am Ian Petchnik, here as always with Jason Rabinowitz and Ian.
0:17.1	This year is just the year that keeps on giving.
0:21.6	I wish it would stop giving. I don't need it to give anymore. It has given enough.
0:26.6	We've had enough. If it could just...
0:28.6	Enough has been given. Take off the rest of the year. That'd be great. If we could just
0:32.8	all stay where we are, remain calm, and not do anything until next year. If we make it that far,
0:38.8	that'd be good. At this rate, who knows? It's another episode. It's another discussion of another
0:45.2	crash. We begin in Toronto this week with a Delta connection, CRJ-900 operated by Endeavour Air. As Delta has mentioned in every single
0:59.6	statement, this was a single aircraft accident. Okay. By CRJ-900 operated by Endeavour Air.
1:07.7	That is true. Endeavour Air, much like PSA Airlines is a wholly owned subsidiary
1:13.3	of American Airlines. Endeavor Air is a wholly owned subsidiary of Delta Airlines, in case you're
1:20.7	not familiar with the intricacies and weirdness of U.S. regional operators. In this case,
1:27.3	it is indeed an entity owned by Delta.
1:31.2	We'll come back to the communication side of things because that's much less important than
1:35.9	what actually happened. So what we know so far is based on weather data and video evidence because there were multiple videos from both.
1:48.7	As close as you could get without being on the airplane.
1:52.1	Actually, no, there is some video from onboard the airplane.
1:55.6	But yet again, another incident of another crash that is almost entirely caught on video, which is
2:02.8	becoming a trend.
2:04.5	Yeah, I mean, proving once again that Avgeeks are going to Avgeek, no matter what.
2:09.2	That's true.
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