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Death, Sex & Money

‘Babygirl’ Director Wants Women Not to Suppress Their Beast

Death, Sex & Money

Slate Podcasts

Business, Health & Fitness, Society & Culture, Careers, Relationships, Sexuality

4.67.6K Ratings

🗓️ 21 January 2025

⏱️ 59 minutes

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Summary

Babygirl, the new erotic thriller starring Nicole Kidman, features an age-gap romance and a power imbalance. But according to the filmmaker Halina Reijn, it’s more about “what part of us is civilized…and what part of us is still driven by primal forces.” It’s also extremely entertaining, sexy, and dryly hilarious.  This week, Halina Reijn talks about why she wrote the movie, her decision to move away from a very successful and decades-long acting career, and her mission to get us all talking more openly about our sexual desires.  Podcast production by Cameron Drews. Death, Sex & Money is now produced by Slate! To support us and our colleagues, please sign up for our membership program, Slate Plus! Members get ad-free podcasts, bonus content on lots of Slate shows, and full access to all the articles on Slate.com. Sign up today at slate.com/dsmplus. And if you’re new to the show, welcome. We’re so glad you’re here. Find us and follow us on Instagram and you can find Anna’s newsletter at annasale.substack.com. Our new email address, where you can reach us with voice memos, pep talks, questions, critiques, is [email protected]. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

I don't go to the movie theater as much as I used to, but when I watched Baby Girl, I was glad to be in a big, dark room.

0:08.8

I was also glad I went by myself.

0:11.4

This is a movie about pleasure and sexual experimentation, and also a kind of embarrassment around those things.

0:20.1

And I found myself telling friends after to definitely go see this movie, but maybe go by themselves.

0:27.6

I liked watching it alone, rather than as a date night or something.

0:32.2

It was nice to have a beat to figure out what I thought of it.

0:36.6

Baby Girl is about a married, middle-aged wife and

0:40.4

mother named Romy, played by Nicole Kidman. Life is going her way. She is a high-powered

0:46.8

executive job, a sweet marriage, loving relationships with two daughters, but her sex life

0:53.4

is kind of phoned in, flat.

0:57.1

And then a young intern named Samuel catches her eye, and he is bold.

1:05.0

He flirts with her, and then some.

1:08.1

He seems to intuitively know what Romi really wants,

1:13.6

which is to be bossed around.

1:16.4

In one already infamous scene from Baby Girl,

1:19.8

Samuel orders Romie a tall glass of milk from across the bar

1:25.4

while they're surrounded by coworkers. Did you order?

1:28.3

I didn't order.

1:29.3

Did you order this?

1:31.3

Uh, no, I'll get my ticket away.

1:34.3

No, it's...

1:35.3

At first, Romy doesn't know who sent the milk,

...

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