Hello and And the Oscar goes to the winner. It's a tie. And any little girl who's who's practicing their speech on the telly you never know.

Ma I just want an Oscar. I'm David Canfield and this week I'm joined by Richard Lawson.

Hello.

And back with us is Savannah Walsh.

Hi Savannah. Hi Savannah.

Hi, happy to be here.

And this week you're here to talk about a topic we have

perhaps skirted around a little bit

as we've been talking offline about it a lot,

which is the state of the musical

biopick we're going to talk about Back to Black which is at in theaters this

weekend Amy Winehouse film and use that as a jumping off point for the state of a genre that I would say we probably all are very familiar with and that is in a, I would say creatively strange place right now. Let's start with Back to Black. You've

both seen it. Richard, I'm going to go to you first. What did you think of it?

You know, it's funny, I went in, I don't know, just thinking, well, I don't really actually

know that much about Amy Winehouse.

I had never seen the 2015 Oscar nominated documentary, and so I watched the movie kind of expecting the worst as

I always do when watching music bio picks and I left it feeling like oh you know that

actually wasn't so bad like it was it was engaging I liked the performances you know I learned things I hadn't

known before got to re-appreciate her music after so many years but then I felt like I needed to, you know, as a professional critic,

do my due diligence and I went home and watched the documentary and I was like, oh wait, maybe the movie is actually

pretty bad.

Because it just, it's so surface level.

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