Bad Mormon (feat. Heather Gay)
Be There in Five
Kate Kennedy
4.8 • 7.1K Ratings
🗓️ 5 February 2023
⏱️ 73 minutes
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Summary
This week, Kate starts by sharing the shows she’s been watching (Bad Sisters, Shrinking, Pamela: A Love Story, discusses her enthusiasm toward the redemption of victims of 90s misogyny, then reviews the social media ads she can’t get away from, and her love/hate relationship with custom songs people commission for Valentine’s Day off of Tiktok ads. She then discusses some thoughts on religious deconstruction and then goes into an interview with Heather Gay, Real Housewife of Salt Lake City and author of Bad Mormon (out February 7). They talk about her experiences being raised in the LDS church, marrying into “Mormon royalty,” what it was like getting married young, having professional accomplishments overlooked, the challenge of living a life that guarantees you’ll still be oppressed in the afterlife, among other things, like having a dad that franchised an Arby’s. Kate asks about the black eye too. Enjoy!
Books mentioned:
The Making of Biblical Womanhood
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Transcript
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| 0:00.0 | Hi everybody, welcome back to the Be There In Five Podcast. I'm Kate Kennedy, your host. |
| 0:15.4 | It is Sunday, February 5th, and I have a very special episode for you today, but we'll |
| 0:21.2 | probably shoot the shit first as usual. I've Heather Gaye from the Real Housewives of Salt Lake |
| 0:26.0 | City on. Talk about her book, Bad Mormon. I don't usually, this is so bad because I'm a person |
| 0:33.1 | who just wrote a book and will be hugely reliant upon press. But I get pitched a decent amount |
| 0:39.9 | of people that are going on press tours for whatever they're featuring. Friends of the pod and |
| 0:44.5 | writers of relevant material, I absolutely take them up on it. But with public figures, |
| 0:53.6 | there's usually a lot of rules about what you can't, you can't ask them and you have to focus on |
| 0:57.4 | the material. I want to be able to talk to somebody's work, but also add value to the listeners, |
| 1:02.3 | because this is not a vehicle to sell people's shit. It's to have meaningful conversations |
| 1:07.9 | about often meaningless topics. But in some instances, I find the intersection of people's work |
| 1:17.1 | to make a lot of sense on this forum. I think Heather, I was sent an early copy of Bad Mormon. |
| 1:27.4 | There's so much overlap with the topics we've discussed on this show over the years, |
| 1:32.3 | from Mormon mommy bloggers to Latter-day paints and beyond, that I thought it would be really |
| 1:36.8 | interesting to have a conversation with her. It's always interesting because whenever you interview |
| 1:44.8 | Bravo people, there's a Bravo person on the line. They're pretty strict about what you can |
| 1:49.2 | and can't ask. I was given five minutes and I think maybe two Bravo questions I could ask. |
| 1:54.7 | But then I listened to Danny Pellegrino's interview with her and the whole thing's about Bravo. |
| 1:59.1 | I'm like, I'm such a loser. What a rule follower. I genuinely thought I wasn't allowed to ask. |
| 2:04.3 | But I do ask about the Black Eye and stuff. Admittedly, I wasn't like that in, |
| 2:09.0 | I kind of had trouble following Salt Lake this year, which I also kind of asked about because it reminded |
| 2:13.8 | me of a Beverly Hills season. Remember the season was Bruna and Munchausans? It was hard to follow |
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