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Good Food

Baking basics, Torture Orchard, Iranian food, sorrel

Good Food

KCRW

Society & Culture

4.51K Ratings

🗓️ 25 April 2025

⏱️ 58 minutes

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Summary

What baking beliefs can you do without?

  • Nicole Rucker rekindled her love for baking by tinkering with her favorite recipes and eliminating the fuss
  • Gabriela Glueck visits the "Torture Orchard," where California's nut trees are pushed to the brink so they can withstand the curveballs thrown by climate change
  • Nasim Alikhani spent decades working various jobs before realizing her calling — opening a restaurant to showcase the food of Iran
  • Evan Kleiman recalls the crazy ride of the 1980s LA restaurant scene with Francis Lam, host of The Splendid Table
  • Often overlooked among springtime greens, chef Dashiell Nathanson is anything but sorry to use sorrel in his cafe dishes

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0:00.0

From KCRW, I'm Evan Klyman, and this is good food.

0:04.8

While the world was perfecting their sourdough starter during the pandemic,

0:09.4

pastry darling Nicole Rucker fell out of love with baking.

0:14.1

Like many in the food industry, she was thrust into a forced sabbatical.

0:19.1

Scared, stressed, and tired,

0:21.1

she took a step back from the kitchen

0:22.9

only to return with a collection

0:25.1

of stripped down recipes

0:26.8

that simplify the process.

0:29.4

It's called Fat and Flower,

0:31.4

the same name as her bakery,

0:33.2

and it's baking unplugged, if you will.

0:36.2

Hi, Nicole.

0:37.5

Hi, nice to be here.

0:40.0

I find this book really, really interesting.

0:43.2

It's so different from your previous book, Dappled, which was a deep dive into fruit.

0:49.2

Let's just dive right in.

0:50.9

The first chapter is cookies.

0:53.3

Can you explain what you call the CBM or the

0:57.3

shortcut cold butter method? Yeah. So cold butter method is essentially what could be called reverse

1:05.6

creaming. When you're making cookies and you're making thousands of them a week, one of the

1:10.7

obstacles is when you're creaming butter you're making thousands of them a week, one of the obstacles

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