Hey everybody today I have a special guest and the subject of today is ballot access of it because I've been on the road

The last couple of months and everybody knows that since I declared my independent candidacy for President of the United States

that the big question is can we get on the ballot?

We have retained to the campaign one of the great ballot access experts in the world.

And he's so interesting that I wanted you, the audience, to hear from him directly.

His name is Richard Lee Winger.

He was born in Antioch, California. He's an American political activist and analyst. He's the publisher and editor emeritus of ballot access news. If you can believe that there is actually a publication that with a large enough

audience to justify it. He sits on the editorial board of the election law journal.

Dr Richard Winger is widely regarded as an expert

as the world's expert on ballot access and election law as well as the topic of

third party politics in the United States.

Though not an attorney, Winger periodically

testifies in court cases in legislative hearings

and is a source for both the media

and political organizers.

He's been published in the Wall Street Journal, the Journal of Election

Law, and many, many other places. He has appeared on ABC, NBC, CNN, NPR. And his newsletter about Access News comes out monthly. Welcome to the show.

I'm very honored to be on and it's a great pleasure to talk to you and by the way

congratulations and winning the third ballot access case for

2024 your Utah case it's not over but it's basically one.

I think we're fighting the same, basically the same law now in Idaho.

Well, I hear that Idaho Secretary of State is saying they don't really know what their deadline is because they

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