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Hey, what's going on? Welcome to another awesome episode of software radio. I'm your host, the one and only rad.

And before I introduce my guests that are hanging out here with me, I want to point out that we have a merch store.

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It helps keep the fireplace on. Also, we have a book club and it's pretty new to us this year, but we have great people.

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And if you want to listen to a book, you can listen to me narrate Brandon Webb, best author, New York Times, steel fear and cold fear.

I am the voice of maybe seal fin in the trilogy books that are coming out on audible with that said today, you know, I'm not going to be that podcast that takes 50 minutes to get into the 10 minutes of the juice.

We're just going to jump right into it and speaking of juice. I have two guys here that decided to stop juice from flowing from your body in the 80s.

Okay, so today I've got Bart Gulong and I've got Charlie Barber. Okay, and those two in the 80s. That's right, when Rambo was coming out on theaters in 1983, these guys were like, how do we stop blood from flowing out of an open chest wound? Welcome to the show gentlemen.

Thanks so much. Thank you, Rad. I mean, there's more introduction, right? Let's talk about quick cloth, right? You guys are the quick cloth duo. Is that correct?

Kind of Charlie wrote the book, my partner and I feel the product. That's right. In the blood, right, Charlie?

In the blood. I'll set it up and then turn it over to Bart. So I had nothing to do with the invention of quick cloth. I'm the writer. So I met Bart about 10 odd years ago.

Please tell us how you met. Okay, so I'm a book author. My book that we're talking about today in the blood is my fifth book and just came out about two weeks ago.

And I did meet Bart 10 years ago, truth be told, he was going out with a woman who lived across the street from my wife and I whom we were friendly with.

And we would be called in my wife and I to sort of check out men that after they got to a certain stage with her to see if they were okay.

So we get summoned to old saber Connecticut August 11, I believe it was. And I meet Bart and it's a very nice house on the shore in Connecticut.

Beautiful views of the ocean. And he said he had just retired. And I said, I basically said being the writer and journalist that I am, where did you make your money?

Because, you know, it was a nice spot. Yeah, said, right. I in my partner invented a blood clotting agent called quick clot that I'm sure all of your viewers are familiar with.

It's now in the first aid kit of every soldier in marine. It's at Walmart. It's at NYPD. But it took years to pull it off and we had a big fight with the army over six years to make it happen.

And this happened between, well, it goes back to the 80s, but it really was 2001 to 2010 that it all went down.

So I'm thinking, you know, there might be a book here, you know, just based on what he said. So we stayed in touch. I didn't get round to writing the book about three years ago.

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