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The Documentary Podcast

BBC OS Conversations: Cuts to US foreign aid funding

The Documentary Podcast

BBC

Society & Culture, Documentary, Personal Journals

4.32.6K Ratings

🗓️ 15 March 2025

⏱️ 23 minutes

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Summary

On his first day in office, Donald Trump froze foreign aid funding, ordering an immediate review into USAID, the government agency which was running programmes in around 120 countries. The review was swift and the cuts severe. President Trump’s team concluded that tens of billions of dollars were being spent in ways which “did not serve” or “harmed" US interests. We hear from USAID employees who describe the shock of suddenly losing their own jobs, and the grim anticipation of the impact the cuts will have on people around the world. We also hear from people running treatment centres around the world, and about the impact on HIV provision in Africa.

Transcript

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0:00.0

Hello, I'm Mark Lohen, and this is the documentary from the BBC World Service. This time in BBC OS

0:06.4

conversations, we bring together people affected by President Trump's cuts to US foreign aid funding.

0:14.8

Donald Trump had USAID, the government agency responsible for overseas aid, in his sites on day one.

0:21.3

Now, following a swift review, his team is closing 80% of the projects it funded worldwide.

0:27.2

In our conversations, employees describe the shock of losing their jobs.

0:31.2

People living with HIV wonder who will help them,

0:33.8

and a doctor describes how she feels powerless.

0:36.1

If someone doesn't keep taking their treatment, it's not just about their own health.

0:41.0

The stigma and the fear is just becoming worse and worse.

0:47.0

As soon as he entered the White House, Donald Trump froze foreign aid funding, ordering a review

0:52.4

into what he said was wasteful spending around the world.

0:55.8

Six weeks later, his team concluded that tens of billions of dollars were being spent

1:00.1

in ways which did not serve or harmed US interests.

1:05.1

Aid workers dispute this, claiming their work supports US interests by promoting stability

1:09.9

and health overseas. But they've lost the

1:13.0

argument. Of the 6,200 global programs provided by USAID, fewer than a fifth will survive. We'll hear

1:21.3

from those running aid programs around the world and the people they've been helping.

1:25.6

Americans who are working for USAID have also been affected,

1:28.8

with many now out of a job. We brought three of these workers together to share their thoughts.

1:34.5

Sadi is a global health consultant who, until now, has been working with organizations in the

1:39.3

US and abroad who get USAID funding. She's now campaigning against the cuts through her website,

1:45.8

USAID Stop Work. Daisy, not her real name, has been working in international development for over a

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