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The Documentary Podcast

BBC OS Conversations: Donald Trump and the future of Gaza

The Documentary Podcast

BBC

Society & Culture, Documentary, Personal Journals

4.32.6K Ratings

🗓️ 8 February 2025

⏱️ 23 minutes

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Summary

Many countries have condemned President Trump in recent days for his proposal to “take over” the Gaza strip while “resettling” Palestinians in neighbouring countries. We hear from two women in Gaza, returning to what’ is left of their homes. Weam shares with us an audio diary of her recent experiences and we bring her together with Farida to discuss why they want to stay where they are. Donald Trump’s proposal for Gaza would be the largest shift in US policy on the Middle East in decades. Many other nations still support the two-state solution, which would create two separate states – Israel and an independent Palestine – something the Netanyahu government of Israel is against. For our second conversation, we bring together two Israelis who have been involved in past peace talks. What do they think of Donald Trump’s plan?

Transcript

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0:00.0

Hello, I'm Mark Lowen. Welcome to the documentary from the BBC World Service. In BBC OS conversations,

0:06.9

we bring people together to discuss issues affecting their lives. And this time we hear from

0:11.9

Gazans and Israelis on Donald Trump and the future of Gaza. As the ceasefire holds, for now,

0:20.1

at least, Gazans continue to return to what is left of their homes.

0:24.1

President Trump's solution to rebuild Gaza involves moving everyone out to neighboring countries.

0:29.7

The idea has sent shockwaves around the world.

0:31.9

In our conversations, we hear from Israelis and bring together two women in Gaza.

0:36.7

The people of Gaza have always entered better kinds of suffering, facing hunger, displacement.

0:44.4

We have never had a say in our fate.

0:50.2

Before we go any further, we should probably remind ourselves of what President Trump said the other day about the fate of Gaza's residents.

0:57.4

The U.S. will take over the Gaza Strip and we will do a job with it too.

1:02.6

We'll own it and be responsible for dismantling all of the dangerous unexploded bombs and other weapons on the site,

1:09.9

level the site and get rid of the destroyed

1:13.4

buildings, level it out, create an economic development that will supply unlimited numbers of

1:19.4

jobs and housing for the people of the area.

1:23.2

Donald Trump was speaking there at a White House news conference alongside the Israeli

1:27.1

Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu.

1:29.3

The President's vision is that Gaza could become the Riviera of the Middle East,

1:34.2

a reference to a coastal holiday destination.

1:37.1

A reminder that Gaza is the strip of land, 41 kilometres long and 10 kilometres wide,

1:42.4

with the sea on one side, Israel on the other, and Egypt

1:45.6

to the south. We've been hearing reaction to President Trump's speech all week, with warnings

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