Oh my God, hi, it's me, Dave Holmes.

Welcome to Troubled Waters, the show that treats popular culture as the most important

kind of culture.

We celebrate it here.

We analyze it.

We eviscerate it.

And to that end, Troubled Waters pits a pair of entertainers against one another in a pop

culture battle to the ego death.

To win this battle, each guest will be called upon to use their smarts, their

rhetorical skills, the great comebacks that they spoke into their notes app to earn the coveted

Troubled Waters title Pundit Emeritus, which will automatically give their opinion on which

classic Christmas special will best help you forget the 2025 is close.

More weight than a civilians.

You're listening to Troubled Waters. Let's meet our guests, shall we?

Our first contestant is the creator of the series Greg in L.A., whose fourth season is premiering in December. That's now. It's Gregory Lai. Hello, Gregory. Hello, Dave. Thank you so much

for having me. I am delighted that you're here. And Greg, you are indeed in L.A. I am. I'm in

Los Angeles. Live on the east side of Los Angeles, which is the actual east of the east side.

People, when I say that, they tend to say, oh, you live in Silver Lake, but I'm learning that that is also east as well.

So where are you?

South Pasadena area.

Lovely.

All right.

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