Being Trans in Trump's America with Dylan McKeever, River Butcher, and Sammy Mowrey

Factually! with Adam Conover

Headgum

Comedy

4.4 • 2.2K Ratings

🗓️ 26 March 2025

⏱️ 86 minutes

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Summary

The Trump administration is actively working to erase the existence of trans people through policy and legislation. But no law can erase the 1.6 million trans people living in America, nor the reality of their lives and experiences. These are real people facing real consequences—impacting their rights, safety, and livelihoods. This week, Adam sits down with his friends and fellow comedians Dylan McKeever, River Butcher, and Sammy Mowrey, who all happen to be trans, to talk about what it’s like to navigate this moment in America as a trans person.

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0:00.0	This is a headgum podcast.
0:05.0	I don't know the truth.
0:08.3	I don't know the way.
0:10.9	I don't know what to think.
0:13.6	I don't know what to say.
0:16.6	Yeah, but that's all right.
0:19.4	That's okay.
0:22.0	I don't know anything.
0:25.0	Hey there, welcome to Factually.
0:26.7	I'm Adam Conover.
0:27.6	Thanks so much for joining me on the show again.
0:29.7	You know, the very existence of trans people has been a bizarrely controversial topic in America recently.
0:37.0	Trump ran his entire presidential campaign by demonizing them outright.
0:41.3	There was that horrible ad saying that Kamala is for they, them, but Trump is for you.
0:47.3	Deliberately characterizing trans people as scary aliens, as though they were separate
0:53.3	and different from real Americans.
0:56.2	And horribly, this tactic worked.
0:59.7	Trump won the election that way.
1:02.2	And then one of the very first things he did when he became president was to issue an executive order saying that there were only two sexes, male and female, and that the
1:11.4	government wouldn't recognize anything else, despite all facts to the contrary.
1:16.9	So needless to say, trans people are under attack in America today in a very real way.
1:24.2	Now, I need to make the point that there are 1.6 million trans people in America that we
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