What up, what up, what up, everybody, and welcome back to the Charter podcast presented by St.

Xavier University.

My name is Alex Shapiro, and joining me today is my guy, Clay Farmer, former NFL tight end, who has worked with Dan Campbell.

And we're going to talk a little bit of Dan Campbell because his offensive coordinator,

Ben Johnson, no longer his offensive coordinator, new head coach for the Chicago Bears.

It was a chill mellow Monday.

So we all thought until Adam Schaefter sent the tweet that

sent the city into a frenzy. That's right. This process that we thought might go on for a week or so,

we'll know. Who knows, maybe another interview. Maybe not. No. They just get their guy. The bears got

their guy and hired Ben Johnson. So Clay, when you found found out the news as you walked into the newsroom today, what was your

instant reaction? I was excited. Obviously, he was the hottest coach name in the cycle.

And watching him play, obviously, he's a Bears fan for these past few years and seeing how he's

been able to

kind of transform Jared Goff and this offense of the Lions and this high-powered team that

is extremely efficient but can run the ball well. And they do so many things well. And then there's

creativity that's brought in and you see how his players react to him.

Even watching the Caleb Williams podcast, you saw how defensive Amunra St.

Brown got at the thought of Caleb Williams stealing away.

His guy, Ben Johnson, he's like, no, Ben's staying here.

Caleb's like, oh, we'll see.

I wouldn't mind Ben Johnson.

You know, Amin Ra wanted Ben Johnson.

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