Bernie Sanders on Gaza, genocide and Trump
Ways to Change the World with Krishnan Guru-Murthy
Channel 4 News
4.6 • 1.1K Ratings
🗓️ 23 February 2024
⏱️ 26 minutes
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Summary
Bernie Sanders is the longest-serving independent senator in US congressional history and has brought income inequality, poverty and the “uber-capitalist” status quo into focus throughout his decades-long career. He nearly became the Democrats’ candidate for president, twice, and has recently been backing Joe Biden against Donald Trump, warning that Trump’s re-election could be the end of American democracy.
In his latest book, “It’s Okay To Be Angry About Capitalism”, he presents his vision of what would be possible through a progressive agenda - one that would challenge the “corrupt” economic order that allows just 1% of super-rich to control more wealth than the rest of society, and where a decent standard of living for all is not an impossible dream.
In this episode of Ways to Change the World, the US Senator tells Krishnan Guru-Murthy why the US should stop its funding for Netanyahu’s “horrific war against the Palestinian people”, why a second Trump victory could foment right-wing movements across the world with disastrous consequences, and why taking on the ruling class is a necessary but “long, long process”.
Produced by Silvia Maresca, Shaheen Sattar and Alice Wagstaffe.
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| 0:00.0 | People are talking about what constitutes genocide and all that's fine |
| 0:04.3 | Frankly what we should be talking about is how we stop this damn war. Do you have an international court of justice which is defining what genocide means? What we can agree on, I certainly see, |
| 0:14.8 | is a mass slaughter of women and children, |
| 0:17.0 | which is unacceptable, which has got to end. |
| 0:19.0 | And as the United States senator, |
| 0:20.2 | I am leaning the effort in the Congress |
| 0:22.3 | to make sure that Nett niahau doesn't get the money he needs to continue that effort. |
| 0:26.3 | People think that's not good enough or they want to argue about this word or that word. |
| 0:30.0 | Fine, go do it. |
| 0:32.0 | Hello and welcome to ways to Change the World. |
| 0:34.0 | I'm Kristinigiri Murphy. |
| 0:36.0 | My guest this week is a champion of the American left, |
| 0:39.0 | a former presidential candidate, |
| 0:40.0 | and the longest serving independent in US congressional history. |
| 0:44.0 | Senator Bernie Sanders has a new book out about many of the themes he is famous for, called |
| 0:49.6 | It's OK to be angry about capitalism. |
| 0:52.4 | It explores why billionaires should not exist, why American |
| 0:55.3 | corporate media undermines democracy, why health care is a human rights, and is blunt in |
| 1:00.4 | declaring we are in a class war and the working class should fight back. |
| 1:05.0 | In 2020 he backed Joe Biden against Donald Trump and is doing the same this year, |
| 1:09.5 | warning that if Trump wins it is the end of democracy in America. |
| 1:14.0 | Senator, thank you for joining us. |
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