I said that I will buy some secondhand leather items because they've already been made and they

last a long time and she very very seriously told me that I should have my vegan card revoked.

And I thought, well like if you're holding the standard that high

anybody that's even thinking about stepping into this is going to be terrified. A lady like a lady like a lady like a lady like a lady like a lady like a lady like a lady like a lady like a lady like a lady like a lady like a lady like a lady like a lady like a lady like a lady like a lady like. I've had a lot. This is un-Ladylike. I'm Kristen and I am an omnivore. Yeah, I confess. Today when I ordered a latte and the barista asked is dairy okay in that I said

Sure I am not totally joking when I say I'm not totally joking when I say I'm a little embarrassed to admit this. I do enjoy

vegan food. I look out for cruelty-free cosmetics and ethically, politically even, I probably should be vegan.

Like I am... I probably should be vegan.

Like I am a loud-mouth feminist,

always yapping about pro-abortion this

and reproductive justice that and yet I'm fueling up on chicken embryos to go

smash the patriarchy you know like I see a contradiction there.

Then there's a whole trend factor.

The vegan population is growing by leaps and bounds I think is the technical term for it and

vegan food vegan beauty products these are both multi-billion dollar

industries capital multi-billion dollar industries. Capital B big veganism is real, but what's so

fascinating to me about veganism today are both its intersection with feminism, which we're going to get all up into,

as well as the deeply entrenched gender on our plates, specifically the

masculinity of meat. In the US and the UK, most vegans are women and it's a conversation that's about

so much more than food and contextualizes veganism in ways that I had never thought of before.

I stumbled across our first guest when I was

Nert Alert looking up studies on gender, feminism and veganism and

Dr. Catherine Oliver's study jumped out at me. It was titled Mock Meat, Masculinity and Redemption

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