Hello, everybody! Welcome to Felicitations My Live podcast. I am so excited to be here and

Introduce a guest who is going to help me personally, but also hopefully you

This is a very good guest stars. I wasn't gonna have as many guests this month in August and yet

I couldn't help it run into so many awesome people including our amazing guest

Chris Hatchins. Hello

Chris, thank you so much for being here. I would love for you to tell the audience a little bit about yourself and how you're going to help all of us

Play the game better financially

With credit card. So thanks for having me and welcome. I have a crazy background that is like the Jack-of-all-trades master of non-story

It is very fascinating. I didn't even know a half of it before we started talking and now I'm like we're gonna have to ask you a little bit more about credit card points

So I'm excited. Yeah, that might be the only consistent thing

I've I've gone from you know being a consultant working at different companies. I've

Been a startup founder a couple times. I've worked at Google as a venture capitalist

I started a personal finance company and most recently sold that company to a company called Wealthfront where we help people build wealth through investing

But the common thread through all of it is that I've always been a huge optimizer

Whether that's life travel money points credit cards everything and so I've kind of gotten to be well-known for the the person who amassed like 10 million points and miles and travels the world for free

Okay, I need to know everything. You're like a min-maxer, right? So your whole thing is to either break the system or play it to its

End degree. Yeah, is that how you would describe yourself? I've been now that is how I will now describe myself

Well

I had to say I totally admire everything about what you do because I am the opposite of a min-maxer

I'm the kind of person who's all about experience all about fun and

Creativity and who cares about practical things as long as the lights are kind of on and so I was telling you before that just your resume itself

Makes me regretful that I didn't meet you a long time ago because I probably would have been a lot smarter

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