Bethenny Frankel and Andy Cohen | 53

Diss and Tell

Wondery

Society & Culture, Comedy

4.2 • 777 Ratings

🗓️ 17 June 2024

⏱️ 50 minutes

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Summary

Bethenny Frankel, queen of the Bravo-lebrities, ignited a firestorm in 2023 with her "reality reckoning" crusade. She confronted Andy Cohen and the network over their toxic work culture, rallying fellow Housewives to her cause. This episode unpacks their tumultuous relationship - through wild baby showers, tense guest spots, and conference clashes - and exposes the noxious behind-the-scenes environment of our favorite reality shows.

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0:00.0	Wondery Plus subscribers can listen to Diss and Tell early and ad-free right now.
0:05.4	Join Wondry Plus in the Wondry app or on Apple Podcasts.
0:14.6	Okay, Matt, brace yourself.
0:16.9	Braced.
0:17.9	I thought that we would start today with something really light and, you know, fluffy, like
0:24.1	an ethics debate.
0:25.6	Okay.
0:26.2	You know, just like a wee little Socratic seminar.
0:29.3	Sure.
0:30.9	How do we feel about the exploitative side of reality TV?
0:36.6	Specifically shows like The Bachelor or Real Housewives
0:39.7	where producers actively put the subjects in stressful situations. This is like a huge
0:45.5	question that could occupy hundreds of hours of podcasting and you just want me to sum it up
0:51.1	at the top of the episode. Yeah. Yeah, I really do. I mean, yeah,
0:55.4	it's one of those things where it's like, would I be a lot happier as a person if I were an
1:00.9	idiot? Yeah, because I wouldn't have to think about things. And I could just live in ignorant bliss.
1:06.5	Right. I know in my head and heart that reality shows are bad for the people that participate in
1:13.9	them.
1:14.3	Mm-hmm.
1:14.8	Does that stop me from watching them?
1:16.6	No, it just makes me feel worse.
1:18.6	Right.
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