Beyond breaking the glass ceiling with Julia Gillard, Australia’s first female prime minister

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🗓️ 23 July 2024

⏱️ 48 minutes

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Julia Gillard served as the Prime Minister of Australia from 2010 to 2013. During her tenure as the first woman to hold that role, she gave an electrifying speech about sexism and how it impacts all women, even those in power. Since then, she has continued to fight for gender equality. In this interview, she opens up about the challenges faced by women in leadership positions and the reactions to her viral speech. She also talks about the causes of deepening gender divides, how feminism also benefits men, and the qualities great leaders should embody regardless of how they identify.

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An excerpt from Julia Gillard's 2020 speech was used in this episode. The clip was sourced from the Commonwealth of Australia, and is used under Creative Commons License CC BY-NC-ND 3.0 AU.

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0:33.1	A quick note on my conversation last week with David Dunning.
0:36.2	Thanks to those of you who pointed out that it sounded like I was interrupting him.
0:39.9	Our producers discovered a technical glitch that put our audio tracks out of sync by about
0:43.7	three quarters of a second. Sorry about that. It's fixed now and a new version of the conversation
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0:51.6	For the first woman who gets to a new position, a new position of power,
0:58.0	there's this unspoken but very deeply held underlying question and the question is can she do the job.
1:08.0	And so once you've had several women do the job I think that question falls away it's clear that women can do the job? I think that question falls away. It's clear that women can do the
1:14.7	job. But for the first woman there's this extra burden.
1:18.3	Hey everyone, it's Adam Grant. Welcome back to Rethinking, my podcast on the
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