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Somebody else who is an entheogen enthusiast and that you know these these

psychedelic compounds have been a integral part of my experience up until today as

well. No, I can I can completely understand where you're coming from and the

experiences that you had.

I truly feel that these compounds, they, you know, a lot of people discuss the differences.

Some people think they take you to a different realm or they take you to a more subtle realm.

Or they just remove the blinders of the ego

that kind of shelter and like cover our consciousness from experiencing these other subtle realms

they're all essentially surrounding us they're always here but what these compounds do is they just remove these blinders

so we can perceive that. I mean, what is your take on that? Yeah, I definitely think there's something

ego dissolving and kind of perspective unifying with psychedelics. I don't know exactly what the method is,

but yeah, it's definitely,

it's definitely a spiritual effect within the material world.

That's kind of what's interesting to me.

It's almost like we've become so materialistic. It almost took a, you know,

a chemical material to wake us back up to our spirituality. I would agree with that, man. And I think,

I think you know it's very funny because we saw this resurgence in psychedelic use. I mean,

it kind of began at the turn of the century,

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