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Hello, this is the Red Box Podcast.

I'm Matt Charlie.

Coming up on today's episode, really exciting.

I've been up big Ben.

I've been working in part of it since 2005, and I've never managed to do this before.

So we had a lovely morning.

But basically to go and see all the incredible work they've been doing to restore the clock and the tower, and make sure that the whole clock face is all being repaired and restored and everything.

So yeah, find out what happened when I went up on up big Ben to see what they've been doing.

That's coming up on the podcast.

But first, as ever, we kick off with our columnist panel, and on a Thursday, it is, of course,

the columnists with Knight at the Marriott, India Knight, and James Marriott, on Times Radio.

You've been following the Amber herd Johnny Depp case in all its all its gruesomeness.

I've sort of been following it.

It makes me really upset actually to news channels keep sort of blisely playing the really distressing audio.

And even the news reports make me really upset.

And I understand that people in the US and here are kind of glued to it.

I'm not glued to it. I find it really...

Oh, gosh, these two people, you know, in a really toxic dysfunctional relationship.

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