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Hi, everyone.

My name is Lisa, and I'm an alcoholic.

And I think the first thing I want to say is I want to thank Chris for including me in this

workshop.

It's really an honor to be, I have the opportunity to do service in this way and hopefully I'll bring you a good message. Our topic tonight is practicing the principles of recovery in relationships. And I guess the reason that we do this, I mean,

we've already covered steps one through 12. And then these are, you know, we're getting into the chapters, two wives and the family afterward. That's what we're going to basically, the

principles are going to come out of those two chapters.

And the reason that that's so important is that at least, I don't know if you would agree with this,

but at least in my experience that, and I think they talk about it in the 12 and 12,

is that the inability to maintain a relationship with another person is the root of our alcoholism.

So, yes, it's great to be in relationships.

I mean, realistically, we're in relationship with something all the time, whether it's a person or a job or a room, a chair, or in relationship all the time. and it's great, and we sort of take it for granted,

but for alcoholics it's really important that we get clear on what that's all about,

because if we don't, it will kill us eventually, one way or the other.

So I think, you know, they call these chapters, they call them the forgotten chapters,

and a lot of times they're sort of dismissed because they're considered Al-Anon work.

My experience has been, again, and I'm just going to speak from my experience, I mean,

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