Big Mama's & Papa's Pizzeria with Zach Cherry
Doughboys
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4.8 • 5.1K Ratings
🗓️ 16 January 2025
⏱️ 157 minutes
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Summary
Zach Cherry (@zachcherrygmail, Severance) joins the 'boys to talk the LA wildfires, video games, and new bits of 2025 before a review of Big Mama's & Papa's Pizzeria. Plus, another edition of Jingle All The Whey.
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Sources for this week's intro:
https://www.britannica.com/topic/The-Mamas-and-the-Papas
https://www.biography.com/musicians/the-mamas-and-the-papas-origins
https://rockhall.com/inductees/mamas-and-papas/
https://www.themamasandthepapasofficial.com/about/
https://slate.com/culture/2015/02/ellens-oscars-pizza-how-big-mamas-papas-pizzeria-has-parlayed-its-three-minutes-of-academy-awards-fame.html
https://bmpp.com/who-we-are/
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| 0:00.0 | This is a Headgum podcast. |
| 0:05.4 | Want to watch this episode? |
| 0:07.1 | Check it out on our YouTube channel by going to YouTube.com slash doughboys media. |
| 0:15.1 | I'd be safe and warm if I was in L.A., California Dreamin on such a winter's day. |
| 0:22.5 | Released in December 1965, California Dreamin was the biggest hit of vocal quartet, |
| 0:27.9 | The Mamas and the Pappas, consisting of married couple John and Michelle Phillips, |
| 0:32.1 | male vocal lead Denny Doherty, and breakout contralto Cass Elliott, better known as Mama Cass, a nickname from which she later |
| 0:39.3 | tried to distance herself. |
| 0:41.6 | Debuting contemporaneously with a folk rock schism depicted in James Mangold's recent biopic |
| 0:46.2 | a complete unknown, the foursome embraced both genres and recorded a slew of enduring |
| 0:50.7 | hits, accumulating six top ten singles before infighting ended their tenure |
| 0:54.9 | after just three years. Michelle Phillips and Denny Doherty had an affair, and after its exposure, |
| 1:00.9 | Doherty and the cuckolded John Phillips collaborated to write a song about it. Weird. The illicit |
| 1:06.6 | liaison was exacerbated by Cass Elliott's crush on Doherty, Cass allegedly told Paramore Michelle in response, |
| 1:12.4 | quote, I don't get it. You could have any man you want. Why would you take mine? Subsequently, |
| 1:18.8 | John Phillips was cucked again, this time by By birds member Gene Clark, which almost makes you |
| 1:23.2 | wonder if he was maybe into it. This led to Michelle's replacement in the group, though they'd quickly |
| 1:27.8 | reconcile and reform the core four. But after Cass Elliott had a breakout hit with her solo |
| 1:33.0 | Mamas and the Papa's song, Dream a Little Dream of Me, she formerly departed the group to launch |
| 1:38.0 | her own career. Sadly, that was cut short by her death from heart failure, an incident falsely |
| 1:43.8 | attributed to asphyxiation |
| 1:45.2 | on a ham sandwich, a cruel fabrication based on her body type that persists as an urban legend |
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