Nancy Joe, it's Jackie Schimmel.

And Alexes, we're Colin by the way okay so I am sitting

with Alexis Niers Haynes yes do you go by Alexis Niers Haynes?

I just...

We drop the Niers, it's just Haynes now.

Alexis Haynes, okay?

And for any pop culture junkies, I mean, let's just do a little, let's just do a little rewind here. First of all, we know each other a long time, which people don't know. Like a long, long time, like middle school. Like what is that 20 years now?

Yes I think I met you in middle school.

You were really close with my cousin who's like a sister to me and I remember meeting you and

being like she's cool.

I sort of go I remember meeting you like at a sleepover and you had a sleepover and you had like

eyeliner in a thong and I was like yes I started wearing thongs in fifth

grade by the way. That is insane. As a mother now I'm like what the

fuck was my mom thinking? She's like no VPL baby. Like what what the

fuck?

I just wanted one.

I mean, good for you.

I wanted one.

All my friends were getting their period and I didn't get my period first.

So I was like really jealous and I was like, Mom, I need to borrow some underwear and I started

wearing thongs that is crazy but it's absurd it is totally absurd I think I

started wearing thongs when I was like 17.

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