Before you listen to this BBC podcast I'd like to tell you why I love

podcasting. I'm Natasha Aronson I'm an assistant commissioner for the BBC and I work on

making podcasts my real passion is discovering unbelievable unheard stories and working with the biggest

stars who can really bring those stories to life.

I love the whole process of making podcasts from the spark of an idea to hearing the final edit.

There's nothing like it. What makes BBC Podcast special is that we're working for you.

So whatever we commission has to reflect the things that you care about and love wherever you are in the

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BBC sounds. This is five live boxing.

So it's day four in Riyadh or 48 hours before the first bell inside the kingdom arena. That's the boxing. This is about

the characters behind the boxing and today I sit down in a very fancy restaurant

with Frank Warren to talk about his men on the bill and

his last year of re-ad season.

I'm Steve Bunce and this is most definitely five live boxing on tour.

Back in reed and for what another big show which just seems to be endless and

relentless but the top of the builders time slightly different because it's too

foreign fighters so we So obviously we're

involved we know they are but it's also a historic super fight. It does feel

does feel slightly different to me. Well it is but every every fight out here is a foreign fight.

That's what they're embracing, world boxing and this is a fight.

This is one of the best fights to be made again in the 21st century.

I think it's 2002, since the lastst century. I think it's 2002 since the last big unification fight, Roy Jones,

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