Hello, this is Tony Gill, podcast producer for NBC Sports Chicago.

Thanks a lot for checking out this episode, which is our final installment of our Black History Month series.

If you haven't heard the previous two episodes with Doug Glanville and Jamal Mayer,

please go back and listen to those.

You won't be disappointed.

They are very, very deep and intriguing interviews that you don't want to miss out on.

So please check those out if you haven't.

Today, we have another interview, a very, very deep dive into football and the black

athlete in football. And who is the subject today? It's the one, the only Alex Brown of the

football after show. And he's being interviewed by his teammate on the Football After Show, host Lawrence Holmes,

who you guys know hosts the Undercenter podcast for NBC Sports Chicago.

In the interview, Lawrence and Alex have a real conversation about the Bruni rule, the state

of the black quarterback,

and Alex's own personal history with being moved from the quarterback position,

which he originally played.

Alex really told a great story about how he is almost to a certain point jealous of, you know, how Deshawn Watson's and

the Lamar Jackson's had enough courage to stick with being a quarterback when he allowed

himself to be moved to linebacker and defensive end. It was very touching and very

heartfelt a story that Alex went to. So without further ado, let's dive right into it with

host Lawrence Holmes and Alex Brown. You know, I got to say, man, one of the things I've really appreciated about us working together

is the difference in our black experience.

And it usually comes up when you're talking about, oh, so you grew up on south side of Chicago, right?

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