This is a bonus outtake from our interview with Glenn Cochee of Wilco.

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I found that another component of that is not only do the work, but also don't judge yourself too harshly or too soon.

Is that something that you would agree with?

Yes. Are you harsh on would agree with? Yes.

Are you harsh on yourself by nature?

I wouldn't say harsh.

I just have very high expectations.

So I'm never like, oh, this sucks.

I suck.

This is horrible.

I'm just like, this is cool, but it's not something that is like,

that I would, I would be blown away by.

It's not something that's grabbing me and saying,

you've never heard this before.

You know, this is something fresh and new and exciting.

It's like, it's hard to do that every single time, right?

No, I know, but it is, but if you,

but I do, I unfortunately have that kind of standard.

And, you know, and it makes it difficult because sometimes I'm involved in group situations where

that's not the goal is to not not produce something that's never been done before.

Right. But that's where my personality leans. So I'm not, I'm not harsh on myself. I guess I just

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