This is a bonus episode from my conversation with Mack McNeely of the Jesus Lizard.

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Travis asks, how did you come up with the drum break on Puss?

Well, that wasn't a whole lot of like preparation.

And it's probably not, it's definitely not very flashy.

But I kind of don't think that that song, for some reason, I think at the time, I was thinking, this doesn't need some kind of, who like,

you know, like thing. It just needs something that's kind of like, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, and then,

you know, so that was why it was just like bug up, bugab, bug up, bugger, bug up, you know,

kind of a lead up thing. And then kind of a weird of a weird herky jerky kind of leave out a beat

and then go back into it. It wasn't a lot of forethought.

Okay, next. Stefan asks, which of the lizard albums has your favorite drum sound?

Probably goat.

Okay.

Stefan also asks, what's the craziest show you played?

I can't remember because literally there were many, many crazy shows.

And most of the crazy shows were the ones where there

are too many people and too small of a place and they were spilling onto the stage and,

you know, beer and gets thrown around and people are slipping on the stage and jumping off and like we had many many of

those shows and so I can't really say one was a crazy one because you know we had many many like

that that I love those all all those okay and I think you already kind of answered this before, but Billy asks how you and

David Sims approached locking in together as a rhythm section. You have a very distinct swing to the

feel in the band. Was that something that you put a lot of thought into, or did it just kind of come naturally?

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