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🗓️ 16 November 2020
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In this bonus episode, Catholic apologist Trent Horn and Protestant apologist Steve Christie (author of Why Protestant Bibles Are Smaller) debate whether Protestants have the correct old testament canon.
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Steve Christi: I graduated from a Catholic college, where I converted to a Protestant in August 2004. I also earned a Bachelor's degree in psychology & a Master of Business Administration. I was the Chairman of the Missions Committee at my former church. I have spoken at several churches in the northwest Ohio, northeast Ohio, & southeast Michigan areas on the canon of Scripture, as well as the keynote speaker on the 500-year anniversary of the Protestant Reformation. I was a guest on Reason & Theology (a Catholic YouTube ministry), and later I debated Gary Michuta on the canon. I have been interviewed on Christian television & radio. I have been teaching home Bible studies for 13 years, and the author of two books: “Why Protestant Bibles are smaller” & “Not really of us: why do children of Christian parents abandon the faith?” I currently worship at Emmanuel Baptist Church in Toledo, Ohio.
Trent Horn: After his conversion to the Catholic faith, Trent Horn earned master’s degrees in the fields of theology, philosophy, and bioethics. He serves as a staff apologist for Catholic Answers, where he specializes in teaching Catholics to graciously and persuasively engage those who disagree with them. Trent models that approach each week on the radio program Catholic Answers Live and on his own podcast, The Counsel of Trent. He has also been invited to debate at UC Berkeley, UC Santa Barbara, and Stanford University. Trent is an adjunct professor of apologetics at Holy Apostles College, has written for The National Catholic Bioethics Quarterly, and is the author of nine books, including Answering Atheism, The Case for Catholicism, and Why We’re Catholic: Our Reasons for Faith, Hope, and Love.
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0:00.0 | Hello, hello, and welcome to Pints with a Quinness. |
0:03.2 | I am really excited about today's debate. |
0:06.2 | You are very welcome whether you are a Catholic or a Protestant or an Orthodox Christian or |
0:10.8 | somebody who's just curious about what a debate on the Old Testament canon looks like. |
0:14.8 | You are very welcome and we are so glad that you're here. |
0:18.7 | Today Trent Horn and Steve Christie will be debating the question, do Protestants have the |
0:24.6 | correct Old Testament canon of Scripture? |
0:27.5 | Steve, a Protestant, will be arguing in the affirmative and Trent a Catholic Apologist |
0:32.7 | from Catholic Answers in the negative. |
0:34.8 | Now for those of you who aren't aware, while Protestants and Catholics agree on what constitutes |
0:40.0 | the New Testament canon, we disagree about what constitutes the Old Testament canon. |
0:46.0 | Catholics recognize seven additional books than Protestants do. |
0:50.6 | These are sometimes referred to as the Deuteronical Books of Scripture or the Apographer, those |
0:56.0 | seven books that Catholics accept, but which Protestants do not accept are Tobit Judith, |
1:01.4 | the Book of Wisdom, Syrac, which is also called Ecclesiasticus, Baruch, 1st and 2nd |
1:06.2 | Maccabees. |
1:07.2 | Now in addition to those seven books, Catholics also have additional portions of the books |
1:13.4 | of Esther and Daniel. |
1:15.6 | So in a moment I'm going to be inviting up our debaters and I'm going to be asking them |
1:19.1 | to introduce themselves really quickly and to tell us why this is an important debate |
1:24.4 | to have. |
1:25.5 | But before we do that, I want to say thank you to our sponsor Exodus 90. |
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