Hey y'all. Welcome to a special episode of the Jefferson Fisher podcast. Today's episode is a little bit different, and I couldn't be more excited about it. My book, The Next Conversation, Argue Less, Talk More, is finally here, and so is the audiobook. I am currently sitting in my hotel room in North Carolina on the book tour.

I did four days in New York, did New Jersey, and now I'm here in North Carolina and going to continue on doing it.

I wanted to give you my listeners an exclusive treat.

I want to give you a full listen to Chapter 1 from the audiobook read by me.

Now, this chapter sets the tone for everything the book is about, helping you navigate

tough conversations with confidence, clarity, and of course, connection. If you enjoy what you hear,

I'd love for you to check out the rest of the audiobook or grab a copy of my book. You can find it

wherever books or audiobooks are sold, and you can head to the nextconversation.com and it'll be down there in the show notes

for all the details. Now, let's dive into chapter one of the next conversation. I hope you enjoy it

as much as I enjoyed writing it and reading it. Chapter one, never win an argument.

I don't trust you as far as I can throw you, he bellowed.

In all honesty, it was a compliment.

He could have thrown me pretty far.

In his tan coveralls with a white oval patch that had LaPray embroidered in black in the upper left pocket, Bobby LaPray

glared at me with enough heat to burn a hole through my suit jacket. Now, generally, I don't

know what someone looks like before I meet them at their deposition. And whatever I picture

Bobby LaPray looking like, it wasn't this.

Sitting at the conference room table waiting for people to arrive,

I looked up to see a half human, half giant.

His outline took up the whole doorway.

Naturally, I stood up and walked over to him to shake his hand and introduce myself. Jefferson Fisher, I sat

with a smile. "'Hmphobby,' he muttered.

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