Pushkin Hello everyone. For those who've listened to the show, you'll know that Lee Krasner

started painting at around aged 14 until her death in 1984.

That's six decades of work.

One thing I love about Lee's art is how it was constantly changing in style, in scale, from

17 feet wide paintings to small mosaic tables.

We didn't really have time to get properly stuck into Lee's art in the show, but we're going to do that now, because for me, they're some of the greatest masterpieces of the 20th century.

And we're going to do that with my friend Eleanor Nair,

who knows all about Lee.

In fact, she's the person who introduced me

to Lee Krasna's work in the first place.

And a quick note that all of the paintings will be discussing

are linked to in our show notes.

So if you'd like to take a look as we go, please do.

Hi Eleanor, thank you so much for making time to chat with me about all things Lee Krasner. Thank you, K

Katie. I know you're pretty busy these days,

because of your new job as the Keith L and Catherine Sachs

curator and head of modern and contemporary art at the Philadelphia Museum of Art.

But back in 2019 you were working at the Barbican Art Gallery in London,

where you curated a groundbreaking retrospective of Lee's work.

It blew me away as you know, but what drew you to Lee Krasna in the first place, so much

so that you staged this major exhibition.

I think in a way as a curator you're always looking for something that's intriguing,

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