I do think that there's something truly banal about heterosexual dating that is kind of fascinating,

but again, not in a good way.

Welcome to Here to Make Friends, a HuffPost podcast about the Bachelor franchise,

where we lovingly snark on the Bachelor and Bachelor adjacent shows. Whether you love the

Bachelor or love to hate it, we're here to break down every delicious moment with you.

I'm Emma Gray and I'm Lee Blickley.

A 90s boy band star, a streaming service,

LED lighted personal pods, a deep well of underlying sadness,

Emma, what do all of these things have in common?

I can think of one thing Lee and it's love is blind. The slightly dystopian,

but incredibly gripping new dating reality show on Netflix.

Yeah, our new addiction and the world's new addiction.

Yeah, we received so many messages about the show that we decided we owed it to you, our

beautiful listeners to discuss it. And ourselves because we are selfish creatures and we want

to talk about it. So for this episode, we're going to start out with a spoiler-free other than

some light discussion of characters, which requires us to get a little bit into some of the stuff

that happens the first couple episodes talk about the show and its structure. And then in the second

half of this episode, we'll dive deeper, including some spoilers about the finale. So you've been

forewarned along with Guardian, Columnist and author, Jessa Crispin. Yeah, we had a great

discussion with Jessa. I think you're going to love it. But again, if you have not watched yet,

do not listen to the second half. You've been warned. You've been warned.

So, Lee, let's start out for those of our listeners that might not have watched this epic

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