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Turning to the Mystics with James Finley

Bonus: Malcolm Guite on T.S. Eliot's Four Quartets (Part 1)

Turning to the Mystics with James Finley

Center for Action and Contemplation

Spirituality, Religion & Spirituality, Christianity

4.81.8K Ratings

🗓️ 11 November 2024

⏱️ 44 minutes

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Summary

On this special bonus episode, James Finley and Kirsten Oates interview Malcolm Guite about the nature of poetry to speak to directly to the heart, putting words to the ineffable. They also discuss the first two of T.S. Eliot's Four Quartets, providing additional depth and insight into Eliot's use of pattern, exploration of time and place, as well as his references to the mystics. Resources: Turning to the Mystics is a podcast by the Center for Action and Contemplation. To learn more about James Finley, visit his faculty profile here. The transcript for this episode can be found here. The book we will be using this season can be found here. A free version can be accessed online here.   Connect with us: Have a question you'd like Jim or Kirsten to answer about this season? Email us: [email protected] Send us a voicemail: cac.org/voicemail   We'll be accepting questions for our Listener Questions episode until November 7th, 2024. This podcast is made possible, thanks to the generosity of our donors. If you would love to support the ongoing work of the Center for Action and Contemplation and the continued work of our podcasts, you can donate at https://cac.org/support-cac/podcasts/ Thank you!

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To learn more, visit cac.org.

0:08.2

Greetings. I'm Jim Finley.

0:11.2

And I'm Kirsten Oates.

0:13.2

Welcome to Turning to the Mystics.

0:29.3

Welcome, everyone to Season 10 of Turning to the Mystics, where we've been turning to T.S. Eliot's poetry in Four Quartets. In this episode, Jim and I are being joined by a very

0:36.5

special guest, an expert on Four quartets, Malcolm Gait.

0:40.3

This conversation was so rich that we divided it into two episodes.

0:45.3

Today in part one of our dialogue, we'll focus on the first two poems from four quartets.

0:51.3

But before we get started, let me tell you a little more about Malcolm Geite.

0:56.0

Malcolm Geite is an English poet, singer-songwriter, Anglican priest and academic. His research

1:02.4

interests include the intersection of religion and the arts. He is a life fellow at Gerton

1:08.5

College, Cambridge. On several occasions, he has taught as visiting faculty

1:13.4

at colleges and universities in England and North America. Gait is the author of five books of

1:20.5

poetry, as well as several books on Christian faith and theology. Now on to the episode. Welcome, Malcolm. Welcome, Jim. Thank you. It's a pleasure to be here.

1:31.7

Yeah, very good. So Malcolm, where are you joining us from? So I'm actually in a little studio in the

1:39.0

wonderful medieval city of Norwich in the county of Norfolk. Norwich, of course, has its own little

1:46.4

resonance with the four quartets because the great mystic Julian of Norwich flourished here in the

1:54.5

14th century and her shrine. The actual shrine is at a church right here near the city center.

2:00.1

It was bombed in the war, but it was rebuilt just in exactly the same place.

2:03.6

So you can walk down into Julian's shrine.

2:06.4

And in fact, you know, and you can hear, as it were, Elliot channeling her in all shall be well,

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