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American Prestige

Bonus - (Mis)understanding the Political Right in 2025 w/ Matthew Ellis (Preview)

American Prestige

Daniel Bessner & Derek Davison

History, Politics, News

4.8705 Ratings

🗓️ 16 February 2025

⏱️ 10 minutes

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Summary

Danny and Derek speak with Matthew Ellis, professor of literature and film at Portland State University, about how to understand the right in this particular moment. They talk about Elon Musk’s infamous Roman salute at Trump’s inauguration, how the right engages with these symbols, media literacy among liberals and the left, the business model around outrage, the end of mass culture, Trump’s rhetorical similarities to fascists, lost opportunities to reform liberalism over the last 20 years, and more. Subscribe now to hear the full episode! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:53.3

It's home. Thank you. You're so. Hello, Prestige heads, and welcome to American Prestige. I'm Danny Bessner, here as always with my friend and comrade Derek Davison.

0:57.5

And I'm very excited to welcome to the podcast today, Matt Ellis. Matt teaches literature and film at Portland State University.

1:04.4

And he wrote a very compelling sub-sac I thought about how to understand the right.

1:09.0

And we thought we'd invite him to talk about this.

1:10.8

So Matt, thank you so much for joining us.

1:13.6

Hey, guys.

1:13.9

Thanks for having me.

1:15.3

So first question would be what,

1:19.7

everyone will remember the Roman salute

1:21.9

that Elon did in sort of this feverish moment

1:26.2

where he looked incredibly awkward.

1:33.2

But what, I mean, maybe you could give us some context for that and how you interpreted that event.

1:44.4

And particularly why you wrote the essay, because one of the things that leapt out to me as to why you wrote it is because you thought people were misunderstanding what was actually going on, that people were saying,

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