Get out there, welcome to this special episode of Pines of the Quinas.

I mentioned yesterday that we were going to be doing several episodes of Pines of the

Quinas where we discuss all that's going on in the church right now.

These are going to be coming out sporadically over perhaps the next two weeks, but don't

worry, we're not kind of abandoning our initial format.

Next Tuesday, for example, it's going to be a fantastic episode.

I interview Carlo Brasad on Aquinas' fourth way, so I don't want you to think that this

is turning into like a news podcast or anything, but that said many of you have written to

me and have asked me to kind of address what's going on in the church, and I want to do that.

And I think this is the reason podcasts are so great is we can kind of come alongside

people, listen to their opinions, think them through and formulate our own positions.

And today's podcast I think is going to help you do that.

I interview my fellow colleague Patrick Coffin from the Patrick Coffin show and Coffin

nation.

He has a lot to say on these issues.

I think he's well read in this area, and I think whether or not you agree with everything

he has to say, you'll find this a very enlightening episode.

Eventually, I asked just point blank, should Pope Francis resign?

And Patrick's going to share his thoughts on that.

Keep your eyes on Jesus, friends.

Keep your eyes on Jesus.

This reminds me of the story in the boat, you know.

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