Oh, hi there. I didn't see you come in. Welcome back to the Better Call Saul Insider

podcast. I'm so glad you came back. I'm Chris McKayleb. I'm a co-host of this podcast.

I'm the solo host at the moment and just holding down the fort during this strange time

between part A and part B of this final season. And with this third bonus pod, I wanted

to kind of highlight some of the names that you've heard us talk about on the podcasts

throughout the years. And sort of like the podcast All Stars, the names that you hear,

like almost every episode, you'll hear somebody say, oh, Sherry did this or Phil did that.

And you're like, who are those people and what is it about? What do they do, really?

And what is it about their job that makes everybody so complimentary and so appreciative

of their work? So the first two that I wanted to spotlight are, in fact, those names that

I just mentioned as examples, Sherry Matsusanto, who is the department head of makeup and

also does special effects makeup. And Philip Palmer, who is our production sound mixer.

And I had two really fun conversations with them. And I would love to share them with

you. Sherry is going to go first and then Phil is going to go, is going to be second.

So I hope you enjoy these conversations. And without further ado, let's get right into

my conversation with Sherry Matsusanto.

Okay. I want to introduce you guys. This is you've heard her name so many times on the

podcast. And now you're actually going to get to hear straight from her. She is Sherry

Matsusanto. Hello. Hello. She's coming to a slide. Where are you in Albuquerque right

now? No, right now I'm on location with my husband and Baton Rouge. Oh, looking forward

to getting back to Los Angeles one of these months, but yes. Oh, awesome. I worked on

a movie and I worked on the first pitch perfect in Baton Rouge in 2011. And I liked Baton

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