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🗓️ 11 April 2024
⏱️ 34 minutes
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As we wait for the verdict from Sandy’s evidentiary hearing, we’re releasing a never-before-heard interview with lawyer and professor Sean O’Brien. In this episode Sean gives us first-hand information on the systems responsible for placing those struggling with mental illness in the prison system. We look at common issues— like police officers mistaking mental health symptoms for signs of guilt — and ask Sean how we can reform these systems.
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0:00.0 | Edit audio. |
0:03.8 | Hi, all. Thank you so much for listening to this season of Ozark's True Crime. |
0:08.9 | While we wait for the verdict from Sandy's Evidentiary Hearing, we'll be releasing exclusive, full-length interviews from some of our most extraordinary guests. |
0:18.3 | As soon as we have a verdict, which should be coming this spring or early summer, |
0:22.6 | we'll be back to give you information and more exclusive content. Today, we're letting you in on |
0:28.2 | a conversation we had with lawyer and professor Sean O'Brien. You'll remember Sean's name from past |
0:33.7 | episodes. He's the local council with the Innocence Project and was sitting beside |
0:38.5 | Sandy for most of the evidentiary hearing. Because of that, he can't disclose information |
0:44.1 | that pertains to Sandy's case, but he's a wealth of knowledge on the Missouri state systems. |
0:49.8 | We dig into data behind false confessions, the dehumanization of the Missouri prison system, |
0:55.4 | and get some history on how we got here. |
0:58.2 | We'll be talking to Sean again after the verdict is released. |
1:01.5 | If you have questions you want us to ask him, email us at hello at editod.io. |
1:07.6 | In the meantime, here's Sean from his office in Kansas City. |
1:23.9 | Thank you. In the meantime, here's Sean from his office in Kansas City. My name is Sean O'Brien, and I'm a professor at UMKC School of Law. |
1:29.6 | And can you just tell me a little bit about your background specifically in mental health cases |
1:35.0 | and how that led to some of the work that you're doing right now? |
1:38.5 | Yes, I was the chief public defender in Kansas City in the 1980s. |
1:43.0 | So we were doing all indigent defense cases in Jackson County |
1:47.1 | and all serious like death penalty cases in the western third of Missouri. So I was exposed to |
1:53.9 | mental health cases quite a bit there. And then in 1989, I founded an organization called the Missouri Capital Punishment Resource Center. |
2:03.8 | And that helped private appointed councils who were representing people on death row understand the issues. |
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