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BONUS: Y2K feat. Colette Shade

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🗓️ 14 January 2025

⏱️ 66 minutes

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Author Colette Shade joins us to discuss her new book “Y2K” on the millennial era of ~1997-2008. Will and Colette review how the boundless optimism of ‘the end of history’ curdled into the permanent pessimism of the 21st century, how computer doomed everything even if the specific prediction of the “Y2K bug” maybe didn’t literally come to pass, how nostalgia can be both useful and a trap, and of course, how everything is 9/11. Purchase “Y2K: How the 2000s Became Everything”: Bookshop: https://bookshop.org/p/books/y2k-how-the-2000s-became-everything-essays-on-a-future-that-never-was-colette-shade/21416954?ean=9780063333949 Audible: https://www.audible.com/pd/Y2K-Audiobook/B0D3G5JV6P Catch Colette on here book tour, dates here: https://www.coletteshade.com/

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0:00.0

Greetings, everybody. We've got some bonus chopo coming for you today. It's me, Will, here today.

0:07.9

And on this episode, I will be talking to the author and critic Colette Shade about her new book,

0:14.3

Y2K, a collection of essays that examines the phenomenon of millennial nostalgia for the late 90s and early 2000s

0:23.3

as a kind of, and examining some of the fissures that,

0:27.7

the crevices and sort of a darkness that undergirded,

0:31.9

an era that is mostly remembered now as an area of stupid, good times, good vibes,

0:36.7

and endless fun and hope for the

0:39.3

future. Colette, welcome to the show. Hey, well, thanks for having me. I haven't been on the pod

0:44.9

since I was writing that Pacific standard piece in 2016. Well, there you go. Yeah, that's a little

0:50.6

payola, you know, write a piece about Chapo in 2016, and we'll have you

0:55.8

on to talk about your book in 2025. Yeah, well, thanks for that. It's been a long time coming,

1:01.5

Collette. So yeah, your book, Y2K, I really enjoyed it as an elder millennial myself. The year is an

1:10.7

era you're talking about is an era that encompasses,

1:14.2

like, you know, I'm a little bit older than you, but it's an era that encompasses high school,

1:18.4

college, and then like what should have been adulthood for me, but then like the sort of delayed

1:24.4

or permanent recession of adulthood in the millennial generation is sort of a

1:29.0

theme of this book. But I want to begin by, you talk about the Y2K era in American culture.

1:36.5

And as we talk about it, like, you know, the features of that era, I think will slot into

1:41.9

people's minds pretty easily. But like, what is the actual

1:45.1

time period we're talking about here? What, what years encompass the Y2K era, as you perceive it?

1:51.7

Yeah. So the years that I pick for the purpose of scope for this book are 1997 through 2008.

2:00.1

So that is the kind of burgeoning growth of the dot com bubble.

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