Coming up on Chopper's politics. He said, Frank, I'm your friend. This should be wonderful for you. The idea that the Prime Minister is laughing with you. And I said, no, actually, that's not. I really believe in what you're trying to achieve

I just I would have begged him to take it more seriously

Hello I'm Christopher Hope chopper to my pals associate editor for politics at the

Daily Telegraph and this is Chopper's Politics Podcast. It was the week when Boris

Johnson's political career imploded over misleading the House of Commons about

parties in 10 Downing Street during the COVID pandemic when they weren't allowed. We'll be discussing that and his reaction with

Frank Luntz, U.S. Polster and old university friend of Johnson. Also, Sir Bill Cash, for many the grandfather of Brexit, is retiring

after achieving his life's work to take the UK out of the European Union. He'll be here in the Red Lion pub. And in a week when a Labour

Front venture said it was patriotic to pay your taxes, we'll be cutting to a millionaire who believes just that.

But first, minutes before we started recording this episode of Chopper's Politics Podcast,

the 30,000 word report into whether Johnson lied to Parliament dropped,

with a 90-day ban for the former Prime Minister.

Boris Johnson shot back with a 1,700 word attack on the committee, which to me had shades of Donald

Trump.

With me now is a US pollster who knows both men. Frank Luntz, welcome to choppers politics.

You're looking at me but you're looking at a picture of my shoulder on the wall.

Why is this?

Because I love this location, because it is the definition of the UK of Britain, of Parliament.

What a stinking pit that's your language not mine, but they're throwing some guy in the

air he's going to land on top of them you have big

bend in the background yeah you see parliament I really want that photograph but the

difference between someone from the UK and some of from the states is that I'm

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