and there is something about the weird tension between civilization, colonialism, and imperialism

that does get worked out in very vulgar terms and a lot of the Marxists left, which this rhymes

with, but it actually isn't the same thing if you go through it slowly.

But I just don't know if he wants you to go through it slowly.

There's a certain amount of like, I don't know if he wants you to really pull this threads

out this detail.

Maybe he does.

It's hard for me to tell from the way he's writing

and i also can't tell from the translation either so like you know i was trying to compare them

maybe the point is you have to read dougan in the original russian honestly there's something

to that i'm very sympathetic to that, not just about Dugan,

but about this basic argument that you can always get a sense of what is being proposed.

It's worth translating pamphlets and books and so on.

But sometimes you can really, well, even mostly can only get the full meaning in the original language.

Because every translation is going to be different and some translation is going to be 70% good and whatever.

You have to read like multiple translations of capital for you really understand.

Yeah.

And I would say examples like poetry.

Dramatic.

Yeah, yeah, dramatic. I would say even worse with Hegel, even more than with Marx.

Like, because so many of the Hegelian, I call them puns.

I don't mean that they're funny.

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