Just before this BBC podcast gets underway, here's something you may not know.

My name's Linda Davies and I Commission Podcasts for BBC Sounds.

As you'd expect, at the BBC we make podcasts of the very highest quality featuring the most knowledgeable

experts and genuinely engaging voices. What you may not know is that the BBC

makes podcasts about all kinds of things like pop stars,

poltergeist, cricket, and conspiracy theories and that's just a few examples.

If you'd like to discover something a little bit unexpected,

find your next podcast over at BBC Sounds.

This is five-life boxing.

So sometimes on this pod we plan things really precisely we plan in advance

we might make it sound like we've just invented things but we haven't we're

precise we're clever we're're calculated. And then along comes Ryan Garcia with his

conspiracy theories, with his attempts at lunacy, gets in a fight that he's got no

chance of winning, wins it, and suddenly

everything we plan goes out the window. This is the story of a fight and it wasn't

just an ordinary fight, it was an extraordinary fight. I'm Steve Bunce and this is

five live boxing. Now of course I've got Barry Jones with me, else would I have with me but I've got to tell

where we are we're in a roofed garden of a Turkish restaurant called Bobboo and Lilies.

Now what's interested about Bobboo andillies is that the two women running it. I

naturally assumed and so did Patty the producer that one would be Bobo, one would be Lily. Not so.

Bobo is like one of their uncle's cats and Lily is one of their dogs.

It makes no sense whatsoever.

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