Hello, everyone, and welcome to talk nerdy.

Today is Monday, March 24th, 2025, and I'm the host of the show, Dr. Kara, Santa Maria.

And as always, before we dive into

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You are amazing. You have kept us on air for, let's see, 543 episodes. Wow. Wow. So let's get into this 543rd episode. Today I have the opportunity to chat with Dr. Rebecca Lamov. She's a historian of science at Harvard, and her research explores data, technology, and the history of human and behavioral sciences. And she has a new book out. It's called The Instability of

Truth, Brainwashing, Mind Control, and Hyper Persuasion. So without any further ado, here she is,

Dr. Rebecca Lamont. Well, Rebecca, thank you so much for joining me today.

Thanks so much for the invitation.

It's great to be with you.

So I'm excited to talk about your new book, The Instability of Truth, Brainwashing, Mind

Control, and Hyper Persuasion.

But as I often do on the show, before we get into the content, I'd love to learn

a little bit more about you and how you got to the place where, you know, this is content

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