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Okay, you guys, today is a little bit of a different episode.

Isabelle is currently living her best life in Florence, Italy.

So I have the pleasure and honor of being joined by one of our favorite people,

and specifically one of our favorite people to

podcast with Gibson John's host of the Gavin with Give podcast. Hello. Hello. I am so honored

to be filling in. I love you too so much. You know that. You know that. I know. I feel like every time

we work where we're like, we just like love each other so much., it's true. And it's true and it's authentic. And specifically this week, there's a lot to get into.

I feel we need to start with Summerhouse. Yeah. It's, I just feel like Summerhouse is the moment.

You know, we were in the trenches with that show for a while there. And like, I just feel like we're in this golden age for Summer House. Like, this feels like the moment. You know, we were in the trenches with that show for a while there.

And like, I just feel like we're in this golden age for summer.

Like, this feels like the peak of Summer House to me.

And it just, it's, it's the show of the moment to me.

It is.

I feel the same way.

And I also want to note, Isabel and I were off the podcast last week, so not only did we not talk about last week's

episode, but we never got to talk about the after show, which...

Oh my God. The after show is lit.

First of all, if you, I say this every time, but guys, if you are sleeping on these after

shows, don't. You get such context and such little tidbits that are so... I'm going to use the word juicy because that's the best word to describe them.

And they also, like, they don't care about the fourth wall at all at all on the after show.

Like, they just go in.

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